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Bet ya didn't know...

Early aircraft's throttles had a ball on the end of it, in order to go full throttle the pilot had to push the throttle all the way forward into the wall of the instrument panel. Hence "balls to the wall"
for going very fast. And now you know, the rest of the story.

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During WWII , U.S. airplanes were armed with belts of bullets which they would shoot during dogfights and on strafing runs. These belts were folded into the wing compartments that fed their machine guns. These belts measure 27 feet and contained hundreds of rounds of bullets. Often times, the pilots would return from their missions having expended all of their bullets
on various targets. They would say, “I gave them the whole nine yards,” meaning they used up all of their ammunition.

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Did you know the saying "God willing and the creek don't rise" was in reference to the Creek Indians and not a body of water? It was written by Benjamin Hawkins in the late 18th century. He was a politician and Indian diplomat. While in the south, Hawkins was requested by the President of the U.S. to return to Washington . In his response, he was said to write, "God willing and the Creek don't rise." Because he capitalized the word "Creek" it is deduced that he was referring to the Creek Indian tribe and not a body of water.

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In George Washington's days, there were no cameras. One's image was either sculpted or painted. Some paintings of George Washington showed him standing behind a desk with one arm behind his back while others showed both legs and both arms. Prices charged by painters were not based on how many people were to be painted, but by how many limbs were to be painted. Arms and legs are 'limbs,' therefore painting them would cost the buyer more. Hence the expression, 'Okay, but it'll cost you an arm and a leg.' (Artists know hands and arms are more difficult to paint.)

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As incredible as it sounds, men and women took baths only twice a year (May and October). Women kept their hair covered, while men shaved their heads (because of lice and bugs) and wore wigs. Wealthy men could afford good wigs made from wool. They couldn't wash the wigs, so to clean them they would carve out a loaf of bread, put the wig in the shell, and bake it for 30 minutes. The heat would make the wig big and fluffy, hence the term 'big wig'. Today we often use the term 'here comes the Big Wig' because someone appears to be or is powerful and wealthy.

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In the late 1700's, many houses consisted of a large room with only one chair. Commonly, a long wide board folded down from the wall, and was used for dining. The 'head of the household' always sat in the chair while everyone else ate sitting on the floor. Occasionally a guest, who was usually a man, would be invited to sit in this chair during a meal. To sit in the chair meant you were important and in charge. They called the one sitting in the chair the 'chair man.' Today in business, we use the expression or title 'Chairman' or 'Chairman of the Board.'

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Personal hygiene left much room for improvement. As a result, many women and men had developed acne scars by adulthood. The women would spread bee's wax over their facial skin to smooth out their complexions. When they were speaking to each other, if a woman began to stare at another woman's face she was told, 'mind your own bee's wax.' Should the woman smile, the wax would crack, hence the term 'crack a smile'. In addition, when they sat too close to the fire, the wax would melt. Therefore, the expression 'losing face.'

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Ladies wore corsets, which would lace up in the front. A proper and dignified woman, as in 'straight laced' wore a tightly tied lace.

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Common entertainment included playing cards. However, there was a tax levied when purchasing playing cards but only applicable to the 'Ace of Spades.' To avoid paying the tax, people would purchase 51 cards instead. Yet, since most games require 52 cards, these people were thought to be stupid or dumb because they weren't 'playing with a full deck.'

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Early politicians required feedback from the public to determine what the people considered important. Since there were no telephones, TV's or radios, the politicians sent their assistants to local taverns, pubs, and bars. They were told to 'go sip some Ale and listen to people's conversations and political concerns. Many assistants were dispatched at different times. 'You go sip here' and 'You go sip there.' The two words 'go sip' were eventually combined when referring to the local opinion and, thus we have the term 'gossip.'

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At local taverns, pubs, and bars, people drank from pint and quart-sized containers. A bar maid's job was to keep an eye on the customers and keep the drinks coming. She had to pay close attention and remember who was drinking in 'pints' and who was drinking in 'quarts,' hence the phrase 'minding your 'P's and Q's'.

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One more: bet you didn't know this!
In the heyday of sailing ships, all war ships and many freighters carried iron cannons. Those cannons fired round iron cannon balls. It was necessary to keep a good supply near the cannon. However, how to prevent them from rolling about the deck? The best storage method devised was a square-based pyramid with one ball on top, resting on four resting on nine, which rested
on sixteen. Thus, a supply of 30 cannon balls could be stacked in a small area right next to the cannon. There was only one problem... how to prevent the bottom layer from sliding or rolling from under the others. The solution was a metal plate called a 'Monkey' with 16 round indentations. However, if this plate were made of iron, the iron balls would quickly rust to it. The solution to the rusting problem was to make 'Brass Monkeys.' Few landlubbers realize that brass contracts much more and much faster than iron when chilled. Consequently, when the temperature dropped too far, the brass indentations would shrink so much that the iron cannonballs would come right off the monkey; Thus, it was quite literally, 'Cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.' (All this time, you thought that was an improper expression, didn't you.

The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

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Your all wet..

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I have read all three of those verses in the past. Based upon each of their context (the surrounding words, verses, and chapters) none of them support trinity. But feel free to try and convince me by showing me why you believe the verses are talking about three persons that are co-equal and co-eternal. It would be a good idea for you to quote each verse completely and then present your arguments.

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Questioning your selective blindness is causing trouble? I have to make brief visits, I can only tolerate small doses of humbug at a time.

Here are clear simple statements that Jesus is separate from God from throughout the bible. but you refuse to see them.

f you believe John 1:18--- you know there is no dual nature as you are taught.

Gods power went through Jesus-acts 2:22----- fully. Remember Jesus said he could do 0 of his own inititive--it was God doing all of the things through Jesus--not Jesus doing them.

Still doesn't make him God, and it doesn't say he is God in your statement either.

I don't ignore it, I just take it in the context of the rest of scripture, aparently that scripture is Your last hold out against hte onslaught of the entire testemony of the NT where it makes it Clear, Jesus is not Yahweh, Yahweh is the god of Jesus as Yahweh is the god of us.

Jesus said the SON OF MAN has the authority to forgive sins.

1. Mark 2: 9 Which is easier: to say to this paralyzed man, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up, take your mat and walk’? 10 But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.” So he said to the man, 11 “I tell you, get up, take your mat and go home.”

2. The fullness of deity can dwell in Jesus without hi

I can find tons of letters of Paul where he mentions that Jesus HAS a God. I can go on about philippians if you'd like, but maybe you'd like to answer the mountains of text testifying against the trinity?

I suggest you present your own arguments as I do not click weblinks when there are no quotations from the source. Not only that, I do not debate absentee third-parties that are not on this website. However, if your source posted specific verses of scripture from the Judeo-Christian Bible and the source claimed the verses are proof of trinity, you can paste up to four (4) of those verses within your next post. Naturally, I will expect you to then explain where the verses are talking about three persons that are co-equal and co-eternal.

And therein lies the problem of all trinitarians: They cannot find scriptural support for the dogma of a 3-in-1 god, and so they rely on traditions of men. For your information, any teaching that cannot be "figured out from scripture alone" is considered tradition of men and qualifies as false Christian teaching.

No doubt you can quote scripture that indicates Christ is co-equal with God the Father. When do you intend to do so?

The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

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No, jcan...the Book of Revelation is the revelation and testimony of Jesus Christ.

"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Who bare record of the word of God,and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand." Revelation 1: 1-3 (KJV)

"John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to himbe glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1: 4-8 (KJV)

See how Revelation 1: 8 ( above) compares with Revelation 21: 6...

"And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." Rev 21: 6 (KJV)

It is Jesus Christ Who is the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End and Who gives us the water of life.

"I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely." Revelation 22: 17 (KJV)

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Rank：Diamond Member Score：302150 Posts：4767 From：USA Register：11/11/2008 5:18 AM	Date Posted：04/08/2014 2:00 PMCopy HTML Bet ya didn't know... Early aircraft's throttles had a ball on the end of it, in order to go full throttle the pilot had to push the throttle all the way forward into the wall of the instrument panel. Hence "balls to the wall" for going very fast. And now you know, the rest of the story. ******************************* During WWII , U.S. airplanes were armed with belts of bullets which they would shoot during dogfights and on strafing runs. These belts were folded into the wing compartments that fed their machine guns. These belts measure 27 feet and contained hundreds of rounds of bullets. Often times, the pilots would return from their missions having expended all of their bullets on various targets. They would say, “I gave them the whole nine yards,” meaning they used up all of their ammunition. ***************************** Did you know the saying "God willing and the creek don't rise" was in reference to the Creek Indians and not a body of water? It was written by Benjamin Hawkins in the late 18th century. He was a politician and Indian diplomat. While in the south, Hawkins was requested by the President of the U.S. to return to Washington . In his response, he was said to write, "God willing and the Creek don't rise." Because he capitalized the word "Creek" it is deduced that he was referring to the Creek Indian tribe and not a body of water. ***************************** In George Washington's days, there were no cameras. One's image was either sculpted or painted. Some paintings of George Washington showed him standing behind a desk with one arm behind his back while others showed both legs and both arms. Prices charged by painters were not based on how many people were to be painted, but by how many limbs were to be painted. Arms and legs are 'limbs,' therefore painting them would cost the buyer more. Hence the expression, 'Okay, but it'll cost you an arm and a leg.' (Artists know hands and arms are more difficult to paint.) ************************** As incredible as it sounds, men and women took baths only twice a year (May and October). Women kept their hair covered, while men shaved their heads (because of lice and bugs) and wore wigs. Wealthy men could afford good wigs made from wool. They couldn't wash the wigs, so to clean them they would carve out a loaf of bread, put the wig in the shell, and bake it for 30 minutes. The heat would make the wig big and fluffy, hence the term 'big wig'. Today we often use the term 'here comes the Big Wig' because someone appears to be or is powerful and wealthy. ***************************** In the late 1700's, many houses consisted of a large room with only one chair. Commonly, a long wide board folded down from the wall, and was used for dining. The 'head of the household' always sat in the chair while everyone else ate sitting on the floor. Occasionally a guest, who was usually a man, would be invited to sit in this chair during a meal. To sit in the chair meant you were important and in charge. They called the one sitting in the chair the 'chair man.' Today in business, we use the expression or title 'Chairman' or 'Chairman of the Board.' ***************************** Personal hygiene left much room for improvement. As a result, many women and men had developed acne scars by adulthood. The women would spread bee's wax over their facial skin to smooth out their complexions. When they were speaking to each other, if a woman began to stare at another woman's face she was told, 'mind your own bee's wax.' Should the woman smile, the wax would crack, hence the term 'crack a smile'. In addition, when they sat too close to the fire, the wax would melt. Therefore, the expression 'losing face.' ***************************** Ladies wore corsets, which would lace up in the front. A proper and dignified woman, as in 'straight laced' wore a tightly tied lace. ***************************** Common entertainment included playing cards. However, there was a tax levied when purchasing playing cards but only applicable to the 'Ace of Spades.' To avoid paying the tax, people would purchase 51 cards instead. Yet, since most games require 52 cards, these people were thought to be stupid or dumb because they weren't 'playing with a full deck.' **************************** Early politicians required feedback from the public to determine what the people considered important. Since there were no telephones, TV's or radios, the politicians sent their assistants to local taverns, pubs, and bars. They were told to 'go sip some Ale and listen to people's conversations and political concerns. Many assistants were dispatched at different times. 'You go sip here' and 'You go sip there.' The two words 'go sip' were eventually combined when referring to the local opinion and, thus we have the term 'gossip.' ****************************** At local taverns, pubs, and bars, people drank from pint and quart-sized containers. A bar maid's job was to keep an eye on the customers and keep the drinks coming. She had to pay close attention and remember who was drinking in 'pints' and who was drinking in 'quarts,' hence the phrase 'minding your 'P's and Q's'. ******************************** One more: bet you didn't know this! In the heyday of sailing ships, all war ships and many freighters carried iron cannons. Those cannons fired round iron cannon balls. It was necessary to keep a good supply near the cannon. However, how to prevent them from rolling about the deck? The best storage method devised was a square-based pyramid with one ball on top, resting on four resting on nine, which rested on sixteen. Thus, a supply of 30 cannon balls could be stacked in a small area right next to the cannon. There was only one problem... how to prevent the bottom layer from sliding or rolling from under the others. The solution was a metal plate called a 'Monkey' with 16 round indentations. However, if this plate were made of iron, the iron balls would quickly rust to it. The solution to the rusting problem was to make 'Brass Monkeys.' Few landlubbers realize that brass contracts much more and much faster than iron when chilled. Consequently, when the temperature dropped too far, the brass indentations would shrink so much that the iron cannonballs would come right off the monkey; Thus, it was quite literally, 'Cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.' (All this time, you thought that was an improper expression, didn't you. The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
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Rank：Diamond Member Score：302150 Posts：4767 From：USA Register：11/11/2008 5:18 AM	Re：Bet ya didn't know... Date Posted：04/28/2016 6:07 AMCopy HTML Your all wet.. The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
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Rank：Diamond Member Score：302150 Posts：4767 From：USA Register：11/11/2008 5:18 AM	Re：Bet ya didn't know... Date Posted：05/07/2016 4:23 AMCopy HTML I have read all three of those verses in the past. Based upon each of their context (the surrounding words, verses, and chapters) none of them support trinity. But feel free to try and convince me by showing me why you believe the verses are talking about three persons that are co-equal and co-eternal. It would be a good idea for you to quote each verse completely and then present your arguments. The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
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Rank：Diamond Member Score：302150 Posts：4767 From：USA Register：11/11/2008 5:18 AM	Re：Bet ya didn't know... Date Posted：05/07/2016 4:52 AMCopy HTML Questioning your selective blindness is causing trouble? I have to make brief visits, I can only tolerate small doses of humbug at a time. Here are clear simple statements that Jesus is separate from God from throughout the bible. but you refuse to see them. f you believe John 1:18--- you know there is no dual nature as you are taught. Gods power went through Jesus-acts 2:22----- fully. Remember Jesus said he could do 0 of his own inititive--it was God doing all of the things through Jesus--not Jesus doing them. Still doesn't make him God, and it doesn't say he is God in your statement either. I don't ignore it, I just take it in the context of the rest of scripture, aparently that scripture is Your last hold out against hte onslaught of the entire testemony of the NT where it makes it Clear, Jesus is not Yahweh, Yahweh is the god of Jesus as Yahweh is the god of us. Jesus said the SON OF MAN has the authority to forgive sins. 1. Mark 2: 9 Which is easier: to say to this paralyzed man, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up, take your mat and walk’? 10 But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.” So he said to the man, 11 “I tell you, get up, take your mat and go home.” 2. The fullness of deity can dwell in Jesus without hi I can find tons of letters of Paul where he mentions that Jesus HAS a God. I can go on about philippians if you'd like, but maybe you'd like to answer the mountains of text testifying against the trinity? I suggest you present your own arguments as I do not click weblinks when there are no quotations from the source. Not only that, I do not debate absentee third-parties that are not on this website. However, if your source posted specific verses of scripture from the Judeo-Christian Bible and the source claimed the verses are proof of trinity, you can paste up to four (4) of those verses within your next post. Naturally, I will expect you to then explain where the verses are talking about three persons that are co-equal and co-eternal. And therein lies the problem of all trinitarians: They cannot find scriptural support for the dogma of a 3-in-1 god, and so they rely on traditions of men. For your information, any teaching that cannot be "figured out from scripture alone" is considered tradition of men and qualifies as false Christian teaching. No doubt you can quote scripture that indicates Christ is co-equal with God the Father. When do you intend to do so? The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
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Rank：Diamond Member Score：302150 Posts：4767 From：USA Register：11/11/2008 5:18 AM	Re：Bet ya didn't know... Date Posted：12/29/2016 4:02 AMCopy HTML No, jcan...the Book of Revelation is the revelation and testimony of Jesus Christ. "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Who bare record of the word of God,and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand." Revelation 1: 1-3 (KJV) "John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to himbe glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1: 4-8 (KJV) See how Revelation 1: 8 ( above) compares with Revelation 21: 6... "And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." Rev 21: 6 (KJV) It is Jesus Christ Who is the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End and Who gives us the water of life. "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely." Revelation 22: 17 (KJV) The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.